Why did mordin have to die

This will help make some cutscenes after this point make a bit more sense. Lastly, as you'll understand in the next section, you may want to consider bringing more frail, yet Loyal Squad Mates such as Jack, Kasumi, Tali or Mordin onto your squad if stronger characters have died on the way here. If they are Loyal, bringing them with you can keep them out of harm's way and bolster the average strength of the team who hold the line.

All other characters will now remain behind to hold the line against the Collectors as Captain Kirrahe would say. This is easily the most complex section of the Suicide Mission's calculations for which Game Informer's graph is an invaluable resource for determining Point values, who can live or die, and what the death pecking order is.

Essentially, whether a squad member lives or dies is determined by an average Point value determined on who makes up the group, and whether or not they are loyal. Here are the base Point values of your Squad Mates:. The average number of Points the team has will determine how many of them die. If the average is above 2, everyone on the team will live.

Anything below that will risk up to three party members dying. While the exact requirements will vary, in general an average of 1. This means that if four or more characters are left to Hold the Line, it's impossible to have all of them die.

Because deaths caculated on the team's average Point value, a smaller team can still survive if strong characters are present. For example, Grunt can survive entirely on his own because even his Disloyal point value is 3. Having a Disloyal Tali with Grunt will still result in both of them living, because the team's Point average will be 2. The final check in the Suicide Mission is at Shepard's jump towards the Normandy.

According to Game Informer's graph , this is entirely decided by how many of your total squad mates have survived:. Mass Effect 2 Wiki Guide. Last Edited: 22 Jul am. Much of the knowledge of calculations present on this page, including the order characters will die in specific events, whether they die if they are Loyal or not, a Squad Mate's "Hold the Line" strength, and the checks that determine if a chosen character will die, are all derived from Game Informer's graph that details how the results of the Suicide Mission are calculated.

Since he is loyal, he will be fully focused on his given assignment and will be successful. Do not choose him for any of the other assignments since he is not well-suited for them. If he is brought along for Shepard's squad that moves through a bunch of Collector seeker-swarms with a biotic escort, pick either Samara or Jack. Picking anyone besides those two will cause the shield to go down early and potentially result in him getting carried away to his death by the swarms. Should Mordin survive the suicide mission, he will show up as Wreav's inside source on Sur'Kesh.

After saving Eve from Cerberus, he will be on the Normandy where he tries to work on a cure. Enough time will pass until he reveals the shroud on Tuchanka that can be used to dispense the cure.

Right before the mission, Shepard will be contacted by the Salarian Dalatrass about sabotaging the cure in exchange for Salarian help in the war against the Reapers. During this encounter, she will reveal how the last people to use the shroud sabotaged it to prevent a potential cure to be released. On the way to the Shroud, do not reveal this to anyone. Doing so will cause Mordin to find a workaround and ruin the chance to save him. After defeating the Reaper guarding the Shroud, Shepard will meet Mordin at the ground floor of it to talk to him as the facility begins to fall apart.

It is here that Mordin reveals Eve died, which is a result of destroying Maelon's data. With her dead, no one can stand up to Wreav's ambitions of conquest. At the base of the Shroud after the Reaper has been dealt with, Mordin reports the cure is loaded for dispersal, but with problems afoot. If Shepard didn't yet divulge the sabotage, Mordin detects temperature malfunction at the lab, necessitating the need for manual adjustments at the top of the Shroud.

Shepard can come clean, or continue deceiving the doctor. Whichever the case Mordin accurately deduces Shepard's complicity, and resolves to finish the job he started. If Shepard comes clean at this juncture, Mordin understands the position the Commander is in, but deems it unacceptable.

Shepard once more asks why he reversed his position on the genophage, and finally Mordin shouts that he made a mistake. He admits on focusing too much on the big picture, coming to the realization he can't hide behind statistics or ignore new data. He insists curing the genophage is his responsibility and is resolute on doing so even if it means Shepard has to put him down for it, even daring the Commander to do so.

Explosions appear throughout the massive structure, and it is now in Shepard's hands whether Mordin fixes the sabotage or not. If Shepard shoots him to prevent the fix, the doctor manages to bring the elevator up, crawling with determination towards the control console once he's there but ultimately failing to reach it in time.

If Shepard allows Mordin to go up, he expresses gratitude at being able to do so, reiterating that it had to be him or someone else might have gotten it wrong. If they had a particular discussion earlier, he mentions he would've liked to run tests on the seashells. His life is snuffed by a direct explosion in the control room. If he sang for Shepard during their adventure stopping the Collectors, Mordin dies singing his favorite tune, "Scientist Salarian", finally at peace with his work on the genophage modification project.

If Wrex and Eve are both alive, Eve insists on naming their first child "Mordin" in honor of his sacrifice. Should Mordin be killed on Tuchanka in any situation, or if Mordin did not survive the suicide mission , his name will be engraved on the memorial wall onboard the Normandy. However, Mordin can be saved during the mission if Wreav is the clan leader and the lack of Maelon's data leads to Eve's death.

In this case Mordin can be convinced the krogan will only repeat the Krogan Rebellions under Wreav's command and he will willingly disappear to maintain the illusion of his death. If Mordin is saved and the genophage cure is sabotaged as a result, the salarians offer their support along with krogan support under Urdnot Wreav, as the krogan are unaware of the sabotage.

Mordin also lends his expertise for the Crucible project, sending Shepard a heads-up on his current activities. From: Mordin Solus Crucible project extremely engaging. Complex parameters, multiple technology evolutions from pre-Prothean cultures likely. Fascinating to see salarian, turian, human forces working together. Could write case study on large-scale projects undertaken by multiple species.

Prioritization of research on salarian part, demonstrable hardware gains on turian part. Believe humans have metaphor in Tower of Babel. Fortunate that language of mathematics and science universal, even if translators fail.

Appreciate your assistance on Tuchanka. Have kept data from earlier discussion safe. Perhaps after war, if krogan politics demonstrate shift in direction, may be relevant to pursue subject again.

Until then, glad you prevented mistake. Mordin Solus. Shepard can also speak with him at the Forward Operating Base on Earth. After the battle for Earth , Mordin is seen in a lab with a male and female krogan in tanks, implying he is continuing his research. Mordin's name, as with other fallen comrades, is posted in the Normandy's memorial wall.

If Mordin perished while trying to cure the genophage or was talked down from curing it, he leaves Shepard a collection of his early works. One entry contains audio from an appearance on "Science Fun Today," some sort of children's program with a character called Perry the Pyjak.

This appearance eventually descends into an impromptu demonstration of varren mating practices and the flammability of Perry the Pyjak. Mordin voices another entry like the narrator from a film noir movie , telling a story taking place on Omega that includes battles with krogan and a sexual liaison with Aria T'Loak that ends in explosions.

Interspersed with these are several songs, the first a song about cell division to the tune of "The Yellow Rose of Texas" , the second about proteins and amino acids to the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic" , and the final song is Mordin's partial rendition of "Amazing Grace".

The datapad appears for only a limited amount of time. If Mordin was killed by Shepard to prevent him from curing the genophage, this datapad does not appear. Mass Effect Wiki Explore. Mass Effect: Andromeda. Original Trilogy. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? Souai Status: Offline. There they do the last act as I did see above with a few minor changes.

By Klimy - Mon Feb 08, pm. Klimy Status: Offline. You miss him that much? By Clumsy Ninja - Mon Feb 08, pm. Mordin was never assigned anything.